Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Platinum Jubilee of Elizabeth II
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Ultimately, the participants in the discussion argued that WP:NOTCRYSTAL does not apply to this article because, regardless of whether it ultimately takes place, the event has already had real world implications and RS coverage. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 23:35, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
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This falls under Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. The Queen is 94 now and there is no guarantee that she will still be around. At best this could be in her article. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 16:47, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 18:18, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. WP:NOTCRYSTAL starts with
Wikipedia is not a collection of unverifiable speculation or presumptions
(emphasis mine). I agree that it's not guaranteed to happen, should the Queen die before it happens, but this article has presumably been created in line with the fact that planning has started—much as the 2020 Summer Olympics are not guaranteed to happen next year (and I think you'd need an actuary and/or a public health specialist to accurately assess which was more likely), but there's still an article on the preparation. In this case, there's a source already in the article from The Guardian (a republican paper, so not known for reporting on royal fluff); there's also a couple of sources from the BBC, and the official Government press release. YorkshireLad ✿ (talk) 19:30, 15 November 2020 (UTC) - Keep The Jubilee is a planned official event and has been reported in reliable sources. Notable. MurielMary (talk) 11:06, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Keep The only reason for deletion is not relevant because this is a major special event, not just a person's expected birthday. News stories, official preparation etc. will only ramp up the closer we get. AussieWikiDan (talk) 15:05, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Delete This is predicting an event 2 years in the future related to a person who is over 90 years old. This is the perfect example of a failure of not crystal. The likelihood that this will not happen is significant, high enough that there is no reason to have such an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:14, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Comments Although I understand WP:Crystal and this seems somewhat early I am leaning towards keep. We've had FIFA World Cup articles created years in advanced! @Johnpacklambert: failure of not crystal? :/ Govvy (talk) 10:47, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- You are ignoring that this is specifically dependent on someone being alive in 2 years. Sporting events every current member of a team could die and they would still go on.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:13, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry to go back to my previous example, but what about the 2021 Olympics, or similar sporting events next year that have a relatively high chance of being cancelled due to COVID? YorkshireLad ✿ (talk) 13:17, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- You are ignoring that this is specifically dependent on someone being alive in 2 years. Sporting events every current member of a team could die and they would still go on.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:13, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Comment - Seasons five and six of The Crown are at least as anticipated as this event, all of which will occur in 2022. I'm not !voting; just here to warn and to advise. Bearian (talk) 22:34, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - Preparations are now underway and a couple of important decisions have been taken (the medal and the bank holiday). I take the point that there are reasons why this might not happen, but the same could be argued of many other events, and the plans themselves might well still be notable. Dunarc (talk) 23:37, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Keep I created this article as it was apparent that preparations are being made for such an event. In the event of it not occurring, it will no doubt still be of interest as a curio. No Swan So Fine (talk) 23:16, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Preparations have begun, sources have reported, etc. — Mainly 02:06, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per everyone above. TheRedDomitor (talk) 15:09, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
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